Comments on: Insight about my Tamil Society – Part 1 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:50:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: narayanan http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-51 narayanan Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:50:59 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-51 whatever any one says about the tamil society, it is the un- deniable fact that anywhere in the world,the second man happens to be a tamilian(in the sense if the first person is he , who conceives an idea, it is the tamilian who carries it out as the second person)others would hesitate to do it. that is how our people migrated to all parts of the world. so naturally the tamil society has got the influence of all the cultures of the world and nothing is left out. so this society will have all bad elements also contained in it. we should discern as to what is to be taken for consideration. it is the percentage of the good qualities of course there may be bad qualities also embedded in the same person. again it is the natural habit of a tamilian to undergo introspection about himself as well as his society also. this quality is being misued by other people. this criticsm though is meant for constructive activities,makes us feel dejected and frustrated by exaggerations by the miscreants thereby fettering our advancements.so we have to cheerup with our good qualities and should not be frustrated with the crticsm,but having identified the blackspots we should strive hard to remove the blackspots as expected by the original contributor of this tag. after all it is our society which defined a grammer for one's worldly life and also for his life at self level( "pura naanuru" for worldly-life and "agananuru" for self-life) Moreover it is our society which taught "mediceine is food" and "food itself is medicine". It is this society which presented the world devotional literature to any religion in the world. It is this society which became instrumental in silicon valley of US and for developments in countries like africa, fuji, mauritious, australia, singapore,malaysia, burma etc. it is this society which contributed its service by funding money to the needy societies for developing agriculture and trade when banks were not formed,it is this society which supplied intelligentia and the manpower for labour etc to the then government( britishers )for the worldly needs.we should be proud of ourselves for the contribution made by our ancestors to this world.even now we are respected for our dignity of labour and our honesty.of course here and there happened some untoward incidents some of which are the worst the history has never seen before,but by and large we are okay. but at the same time what the contributor of this original article subscribed to should be take only as guideline to rectify the mistakes we are committing by the influence of the evil tentacles of Globalisation .let us not discourage ourselves by this writing and we will start reconstructing our society starting with our children in nurturing the moral and civil values our tamil society had initially subscribed to for the life span.this we have to start from our home rather than blaming the society as a whole. the other day there was a gathering in our community which was addressed by Ms.Bharathi Bhasker ,an eminent orator.She chose to speak on "effective parenting" rather than chosing other matters.because it is need of the hour.the society is being influenced by globalisation and hence we need protection for not losing values for life.and in this sence the contributor of the original article has done justice in initiating a thinking in the right direction and for this his efforts are sincerely applauded with due respect for his concern about our society. YADHUM OORAE YAVARUM KEZHIR- VAZHGA TAMIL-VELGA MAANUDAM whatever any one says about the tamil society, it is the un- deniable fact that anywhere in the world,the second man happens to be a tamilian(in the sense if the first person is he , who conceives an idea, it is the tamilian who carries it out as the second person)others would hesitate to do it.
that is how our people migrated to all parts of the world.
so naturally the tamil society has got the influence of all the cultures of the world and nothing is left out.
so this society will have all bad elements also contained in it. we should discern as to what is to be taken for consideration. it is the percentage of the good qualities of course there may be bad qualities also embedded in the same person.
again it is the natural habit of a tamilian to undergo introspection about himself as well as his society also.
this quality is being misued by other people.
this criticsm though is meant for constructive activities,makes us feel dejected and frustrated by exaggerations by the miscreants thereby fettering our advancements.so we have to cheerup with our good qualities and should not be frustrated with the crticsm,but having identified the blackspots we should strive hard to remove the blackspots as expected by the original contributor of this tag.
after all it is our society which defined a grammer for one’s worldly life and also for his life at self level( “pura naanuru” for worldly-life and “agananuru” for self-life)
Moreover it is our society which taught “mediceine is food” and “food itself is medicine”.
It is this society which presented the world devotional literature to any religion in the world.
It is this society which became instrumental in silicon valley of US and for developments in countries like africa, fuji, mauritious, australia, singapore,malaysia, burma etc.
it is this society which contributed its service by funding money to the needy societies for developing agriculture and trade when banks were not formed,it is this society which supplied intelligentia and the manpower for labour etc to the then government( britishers )for the worldly needs.we should be proud of ourselves for the contribution made by our ancestors to this world.even now we are respected for our dignity of labour and our honesty.of course here and there happened some untoward incidents some of which are the worst the history has never seen before,but by and large we are okay.
but at the same time what the contributor of this original article subscribed to should be take only as guideline to rectify the mistakes we are committing by the influence of the evil tentacles of Globalisation .let us not discourage ourselves by this writing and we will start reconstructing our society starting with our children in nurturing the moral and civil values our tamil society had initially subscribed to for the life span.this we have to start from our home rather than blaming the society as a whole.

the other day there was a gathering in our community which was addressed by Ms.Bharathi Bhasker ,an eminent orator.She chose to speak on “effective parenting” rather than chosing other matters.because it is need of the hour.the society is being influenced by globalisation and hence we need protection for not losing values for life.and in this sence the contributor of the original article has done justice in initiating a thinking in the right direction and for this his efforts are sincerely applauded with due respect for his concern about our society.

YADHUM OORAE YAVARUM KEZHIR- VAZHGA TAMIL-VELGA MAANUDAM

]]> By: Ramesh Dhas http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-48 Ramesh Dhas Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:38:56 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-48 Raja..excellent narration in all of your articles..very natural overflowing words..great!! keep writing... Raja..excellent narration in all of your articles..very natural overflowing words..great!! keep writing…

]]> By: Suresh Thennarasu http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-47 Suresh Thennarasu Sat, 31 May 2008 05:46:07 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-47 Hi Raja, I accept your anger and all you said was true.I am wondering ,how much you like your Tamil culture and society! that's the reason you burst out words in blog i believe.if you had seen the movie "devar magan" you w'd have noticed few conversation between Sivaji and Kamal like this.."ivinga kaatumirandigal thanpu...aayiram varusama..vetri vel veera velnu suthukituirutha payaluka then...methuvaathen varuven..".. what i want to tell you that we should need to initate the revolution whatever the change we want..! there is no use blaming ourself..! Wish you advance happy married life man..!!..u r most welcome ..! Hi Raja,
I accept your anger and all you said was true.I am wondering ,how much you like your Tamil culture and society! that’s the reason you burst out words in blog i believe.if you had seen the movie “devar magan” you w’d have noticed few conversation between Sivaji and Kamal like this..”ivinga kaatumirandigal thanpu…aayiram varusama..vetri vel veera velnu suthukituirutha payaluka then…methuvaathen varuven..”..
what i want to tell you that
we should need to initate the revolution whatever the change we want..! there is no use blaming ourself..!

Wish you advance happy married life man..!!..u r most welcome ..!

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]]> By: real tamilan http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-43 real tamilan Fri, 23 May 2008 11:10:02 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-43 Hi all... Greetings once again... Ramesh thanks that for ur polite replies..am sorry if it has hurted you ,but i thought to tell it would be good that all can read if its in english(sorry man if it has hurted u..am also tamilian only..am no where supporting u or raja or anybody.it just what i hav in my mind..) Then u asked me about if i have voted... (i dont want to comment on that and make this nice BLOG into a political blog..sorry no comments on politics) Also u asked me "you are cursing our people and country, have u taken any single steps to change these things?if yes what you(any indian/tamilian) did?Changes has to start from yourself or from your society , what you changed ?" Yes the answer isYES from me.. i have tried to implement many things in india and also make my near and dears do it.. Simply to tell from my heart as truth i dont SPIT on indian roads/i dont put bubble gum on road/ iwait in chennai till the red light stops/i respect elders who cross on road... can any indian tell me that he follows all this... if we have many indians like this surely our country will develop...dont ask me "hi common if we dont spit on road how will india develop....thats wher the point is...self respect is best respect...when u cant respect ur mother land.. there comes the human respect to one another..........not only english man..even black man will come and ffffff our country... Cheers Hi all…
Greetings once again…
Ramesh thanks that for ur polite replies..am sorry if it has hurted you ,but i thought to tell it would be good that all can read if its in english(sorry man if it has hurted u..am also tamilian only..am no where supporting u or raja or anybody.it just what i hav in my mind..)
Then u asked me about if i have voted…
(i dont want to comment on that and make this nice BLOG into a political blog..sorry no comments on politics)

Also u asked me “you are cursing our people and country, have u taken any single steps to change these things?if yes what you(any indian/tamilian) did?Changes has to start from yourself or from your society , what you changed ?”

Yes the answer isYES from me..
i have tried to implement many things in india and also make my near and dears do it..
Simply to tell from my heart as truth i dont SPIT on indian roads/i dont put bubble gum on road/ iwait in chennai till the red light stops/i respect elders who cross on road…
can any indian tell me that he follows all this…

if we have many indians like this surely our country will develop…dont ask me “hi common if we dont spit on road how will india develop….thats wher the point is…self respect is best respect…when u cant respect ur mother land.. there comes the human respect to one another……….not only english man..even black man will come and ffffff our country…

Cheers

]]> By: ShunmugaSundaram http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-41 ShunmugaSundaram Fri, 23 May 2008 08:09:04 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-41 நண்பா ரமேஷ், அவர்கள் இப்போது தான் தமிழ் பயில் கிறார்கள். குறை எதும் கூற வேண்டாம். நமது உணர்ச்சிகளை எந்த ஒரு தடையும் இல்லாமல் தாய் மொழியில் மட்டுமா கூற இயலும்?... உணர்வுகளுக்கு மொழி, இனம், சாதி, மதம் கிடையாது.... நான் ஆங்கிலத்தில் புலம் பெயர்ந்தவனாக இருந்திருந்தால் கண்டிப்பாக ஆங்கிலத்தில் கூறி இருப்பேன்... சிலருக்கு தாய் மொழி...... சிலருக்கு ஆங்கிலம்... உனக்கு நினைவு இருக்கும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன் இந்த திருக்குறள்... இனியவை பற்றி....ஆங்கிலத்தில்... Leaving ripe fruits the raw he eats Who speaks harsh words when sweet word suits. என்றும் அன்புடன், சண்முக சுந்தரம். க நண்பா ரமேஷ்,
அவர்கள் இப்போது தான் தமிழ் பயில் கிறார்கள்.
குறை எதும் கூற வேண்டாம்.
நமது உணர்ச்சிகளை எந்த ஒரு தடையும் இல்லாமல் தாய் மொழியில் மட்டுமா கூற இயலும்?…
உணர்வுகளுக்கு மொழி, இனம், சாதி, மதம் கிடையாது….
நான் ஆங்கிலத்தில் புலம் பெயர்ந்தவனாக இருந்திருந்தால் கண்டிப்பாக ஆங்கிலத்தில் கூறி இருப்பேன்…
சிலருக்கு தாய் மொழி…… சிலருக்கு ஆங்கிலம்…

உனக்கு நினைவு இருக்கும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன் இந்த திருக்குறள்…
இனியவை பற்றி….ஆங்கிலத்தில்…

Leaving ripe fruits the raw he eats
Who speaks harsh words when sweet word suits.

என்றும் அன்புடன்,
சண்முக சுந்தரம். க

]]> By: Elaine P Ganapathy http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-40 Elaine P Ganapathy Fri, 23 May 2008 07:22:56 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-40 You dont need to trouble yourself spending 1 year to understand another language. That is why we have universal language. It is use globally, where we can do tradings and transactions. And if I know I won't make any sense at all... I will just keep the idea in a box and throw it in the garbage. You dont need to trouble yourself spending 1 year to understand another language. That is why we have universal language. It is use globally, where we can do tradings and transactions.

And if I know I won’t make any sense at all… I will just keep the idea in a box and throw it in the garbage.

]]> By: Ramesh http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-39 Ramesh Fri, 23 May 2008 07:15:48 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-39 If your comment is really useful for me or us and if i m very curious to know your comment , i will learn or i will ask someone who knows your language to translate and translation is not much difficult in this high-tech world. Anyway Sorry Raja has wriiten about the tamil society, i thought everyone in this group knows tamil.. and i can not express my thoughts effectively through english thats y i have written in tamil...... If your comment is really useful for me or us and if i m very curious to know your comment , i will learn or i will ask someone who knows your language to translate and translation is not much difficult in this high-tech world.

Anyway Sorry Raja has wriiten about the tamil society, i thought everyone in this group knows tamil.. and i can not express my thoughts effectively through english thats y i have written in tamil……

]]> By: Elaine P Ganapathy http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-38 Elaine P Ganapathy Fri, 23 May 2008 06:58:57 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-38 If I put my comment in my own language, would you able to understand? How do you want to share your culture with others? Especially, in this generation, share it within your groupmates only? Will it harm you if people from other places understand your culture? Do you have somehting to hide? Why can’t we adopt something good… which will help us to grow as part of the society where we belong? How can other people understand and know you, if you are only will share these things within your own people? That is something, I dont understand. If just this simple respect to others we cannot practice, how can we handle big changes to help us progress in life. Might have been he (Real Tamilan) expressed himself in a bold way. You have to admit, undisciplined people are everywhere. Don't be proud being selfish. If I put my comment in my own language, would you able to understand? How do you want to share your culture with others? Especially, in this generation, share it within your groupmates only? Will it harm you if people from other places understand your culture? Do you have somehting to hide? Why can’t we adopt something good… which will help us to grow as part of the society where we belong? How can other people understand and know you, if you are only will share these things within your own people? That is something, I dont understand. If just this simple respect to others we cannot practice, how can we handle big changes to help us progress in life.

Might have been he (Real Tamilan) expressed himself in a bold way. You have to admit, undisciplined people are everywhere. Don’t be proud being selfish.

]]> By: Ramesh http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/my-anger-part-i/#comment-36 Ramesh Fri, 23 May 2008 06:25:20 +0000 http://rajaganapathy.wordpress.com/?p=3#comment-36 Who is acting? If anyone has exposed their thoughts in thier mother tongue,that is called as acting(what a pity!!!!!). I am not against other languages... but when you speak in tamizh with a tamilian dont use English or Sanscrit or anyother language words. Your thought is English people developed India and Indians(Really they have taken our wealth from here, and they developed their country). We are using the old things which was developed by english men. but we are not following our own culture,literature like thirukkural,puranaanooru etc.... About politicians how many times you voted, If you voted you should select the correct politicians. if u didnt vote, you dont have rights to speak abt the politicians. you are cursing our people and country, have u taken any single steps to change these things? if yes what you(any indian/tamilian) did? Changes has to start from yourself or from your society , what you changed ? if you have done any small things to improve our indian society,I m very proud of you. and we can make a good society in the near future. "Kana muyal eitha ambinil yanai pizhaitha vel enthal inithu" (There is far more pride in holding a spear that tried to kill an elephant than carrying an arrow with which one killed a rabbit.) And one more thing u asked to enter the URL in Tamil.. let me try to do that... URL is not my thoughts.. I want to expose my thoughts in tamil... Who is acting? If anyone has exposed their thoughts in thier mother tongue,that is called as acting(what a pity!!!!!).
I am not against other languages… but when you speak in tamizh with a tamilian dont use English or Sanscrit or anyother language words.

Your thought is English people developed India and Indians(Really they have taken our wealth from here,
and they developed their country). We are using the old things which was developed by english men. but we are not following
our own culture,literature like thirukkural,puranaanooru etc….

About politicians how many times you voted, If you voted you should select the correct politicians. if u didnt vote,
you dont have rights to speak abt the politicians.

you are cursing our people and country, have u taken any single steps to change these things?
if yes what you(any indian/tamilian) did?
Changes has to start from yourself or from your society , what you changed ?

if you have done any small things to improve our indian society,I m very proud of you.
and we can make a good society in the near future.

“Kana muyal eitha ambinil yanai pizhaitha vel enthal inithu”
(There is far more pride in holding a spear that tried to kill an elephant than carrying an arrow with which one killed a rabbit.)

And one more thing u asked to enter the URL in Tamil.. let me try to do that…
URL is not my thoughts.. I want to expose my thoughts in tamil…

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